Jack Thompson Federal Filing Update
Posted by Dan on October 14, 2008An update to our previous post on Jack Thompson’s federal cases. We’ve got three more filings from Thompson courtesy of user Nightwng2000. Grab them below.
- Filings: Jack Thompson Filing Technique is STILL Unstoppable.
- Other recent filings by Jack Thompson.
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Get a life, seriously, dude. Jack Thompson
PS: You have no idea what you are talking about regarding Gorman. The Bar document I have in that regard is a get out of jail free card for ALL victims of The Bar.
It is fascinating to me that this site’s owner claims to endorse the principles of the Massachusetts Constitution (drafted by John Adams, by the way, which makes it the oldest constitution in the world) and yet does not understand the problem with The Florida Bar, which melds all three functions of government into one. Apparently the owner of this site is very loosely educated. That’s okay. He’s about to be educated.
Jack Thompson
Dan,
Congrats. You’re now in the club of receiving baseless, veiled threats from a disbarred, incompetent attorney.
If you really have a bar document that important, let’s see it. Or how about the “proof” that walmart’s error was not an accident? Oh wait, you can’t these are just the same baseless threats you have used for years
John Bruce, Show us proof that it was intentional and we will stop claiming otherwise.
Also John Bruce, is that you standard line everytime you see someone talking about you in a way you disagree? “Get a life, seriously, dude. Jack Thompson” That is pretty much the first thing you said to me.
Wow, Jacky Boy, you’re one to talk about getting a life.
How is the Florida Bar a combination of the judicial, legislative, and executive branches of government?
Just because the members of the Bar have to elect a President, or the Bar President had to have a judge referee your disciplinary hearing, which she had to file her report of with the Florida Supreme Court, which approved your disbarrment?
All I’m seeing is the desperate actions of a man who will say anything to save his job, who latched on to a convicted rapist who’s desperate to get out of a Florida “Pound me in the Ass” prison.
Practice what you preach: Grow up and get a life.
Jack,
I really love how you’ve been fighting for your own right to represent yourself as a defendant in your own trial, but now you’re trying to deny Florida Bar members that same right. It’s the same old story with you…you believe the rules only get to apply to you, and only then when it’s convenient to your case.
I can’t say I’m shocked.
I forgot to ask…
Jack, if all of the federal judges in your district can’t rule on your case because they are Florida Bar members, wasn’t it kind of dumb to file your suit there in the first place knowing that they are Florida Bar members?
Oh, Mr. Thompson–how lovely of you to grace us with your presence! Your story is quite interesting to me seeing as how I’m a successful 2L with a bright future ahead of me advocating for the game industry in our courts, and your legal career has reached its twilight because you tried to bully my beloved art form. It’s like a wonderful changing of the seasons!
Jack, criminals are not “victims”
“Apparently the owner of this site is very loosely educated. That’s okay. He’s about to be educated.”
And hey, watch the veiled threats against my colleague–you think that helps your appeal or your image?????
It is probably YOU who are about to get schooled…..by the legal system you have no respect for and only want to exploit to settle your personal hangups against an industry and a community that you refuse to understand.
Thought I would pop in and wave at the folks here during my study break. (Too much programming studying while having to practically plaster one’s face against the screen due to nearsightedness (the Accessibility settings are annoying) is tiring, not to mention a pain in the neck, that’s literally speaking, not figuratively speaking… ahem. ;D )
Anyway, emailed an update of filings from over othe weekend and the past couple of days to Dan. Nothing new that I saw today (the 15th of Oct.) and only the ‘big’ one (the 77 defendants one) has had any additions. It also includes the pick up of the docket report from the point the original copy left off.
Nothing really new. All of it is John Bruce ranting “Religious Persecution!” and “Nuh uh! I was NOT given ‘reasonable opportunity’ to defend myself! Nuh uh!”. Nothing we haven’t heard before over and over and over and over again. Was hoping the court would decide on the jurisdiction issue.
But, someone did point out an interesting note from John Bruce over at JaaBlog that’s worth a read:
http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/10/13/affidavitgate.aspx?pg=2&view=threaded#comment-1447345
The post/letter is date 15Oct2008 9:29am.
Certainly a sign that he’s pretty much given up hope and is now just letting ‘er rip no-holds-barred (pardon the bun).
Liz, if you haven’t been to JaaBlog before, check out some of the older threads regarding him (he also randomly posts in various threads there, but this one includes comments supposedly from Richard Gorman Sr, daddy of the Richard Gorman Jr that John Bruce wants to use to save his own butt: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/09/25/so-long-jackie-boy.aspx
Seriously, two peas in a pod that Gorman Sr and John Bruce.
Nightwng2000
Jack threatening to spam all of Florida’s 85,000 lawyers with his cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs theories should be lots of fun. In the process he will violate various anti-spam statutes, and since he’ll be ranting against Florida Bar members with a slew of lies, he’ll probably open himself up to a plethora of defamation lawsuits.
At this point it’s best to let him make his own bed. There is nothing we could say about him that he doesn’t exemplify by his own actions. He’s his own worst enemy and I’ve decided I’m done being outraged by him–he just doesn’t deserve my attention anymore. Except when he invades MY website (well, it doesn’t belong to me but I’m a writer) and talks **** to people he has no business talking **** to. Then I feel justified to let the sarcasm fly. See above.
And to top it off, today, he filed a copy of the actual letter he sent/will send to all those attornies in a Notice to the court in the big Federal case. It’s not included in the update Dan has because it didn’t appear til mid day today (the 16th). But it basically prattles on about how unfairly he was treated and how Gorman is innocent and the Bar is to blame for everything and if the recipient wants to hear more in secret (because, after all, his argument is so weak it can’t stand up to opposing views), respond and he’ll spam you with more “evidence”.
If Dan wants, I can sent it by itself or I can just wait til maybe Saturday night hoping for more from the court.
Oh, and I found this: http://jweb.flcourts.org/pls/docket/ds_docket?p_caseyear=2008&p_casenumber=1195&psCourt=FSC&psSearchType=
John Bruce is so terrible at being a lawyer that he can’t even get himself REMOVED as someone’s counsel correctly.
And here’s more on Salomon:
http://www.nbc6.net/news/17436388/detail.html
What’s really sad is that John Bruce keeps finding guilty people to find innocent to further his own agenda. Salomon, Gorman, Devin Moore, and others. You’d think if he were actually going to use someone for his own agenda, it would be someone who really was innocent.
Andrew
Andrew,
Sure, send it to me. I’m behind schedule the past couple days pulling all-nighters to meet deadline, but I should be finished with all that in the next 2-3 hours, and I’ll post that stuff as you send it to me.
ROFL!
He attached himself to a scumbag like Scott Salomon?
Let me say it again…
ROFL!
Can’t…contain…glee…
Jack managed to find the one lawyer in southern Florida who was more incompetent, sleazy, and corrupt than himself thinking he’d get out of dutch with the Bar.
THAT
IS
PRICELESS!
Ok, RARed and sent.
Sorry it took so long. Having to fix my son’s antique computer that he decided to infect with a virus. Thank goodness I haven’t given him one of my good ones. Whew!
Andrew
Does anyone want to take a bet that Jack will file that “I was disbarred and can no longer act as Salomon’s attorney” to get out of that case?
There are also these two active Florida Supreme Court cases where he is listed as attorney:
THE FLORIDA BAR vs. SEAN WILLIAM CONWAY
http://jweb.flcourts.org/pls/docket/ds_docket?p_caseyear=2008&p_casenumber=326&psCourt=FSC&psSearchType=
THE FLORIDA BAR vs. MARY ALICE GWYNN
http://jweb.flcourts.org/pls/docket/ds_docket?p_caseyear=2008&p_casenumber=622&psCourt=FSC&psSearchType=
I notice a lot of “hereby denied” results in John Bruce’s cases. He’s got a weird definition of “victory”.
Andrew
Good luck with law review….I should be studying for a hearsay test as we speak…. >_>
And interestingly enough, that’s the second case Jacky Boy latched himself onto that the guilty party was investigated by a TV station’s investigative reporter.
What does Jacky Boy have against investigative reporters?
Investigative reports ACTUALLY research, they don’t take their interviewee’s word for the claims they are making. That riles John Bruce to no end to have someone actually verify his statements or counterargue his statements.
Andrew
Holy JackRabbit, Batman, we have some bad lawyering on our hands!
“and yet does not understand the problem with The Florida Bar, which melds all three functions of government into one.”
By that logic, the FCC shouldn’t be allowed to revoke licenses or fine the entities who hold those licenses when those entities breach FCC regulations concerning censorship.
That’d be AWESOME. For once I LIKE J.T.’s twisted version of the law.
You can’t practice law because you broke the rules the Florida Bar sets for lawyers. And you can no longer file claims in Florida courts as pro per because the state has a substantial, if not compelling interest in prohibiting the abuse of its system by incompetent unlicensed attorneys who have a history of filing meritless actions.
Please don’t try to pull the constitutional rights card. You’ll just embarrass yourself. More.
Is it really possible for Jack Thompson to embarrass himself any more then he already has?
Oh and Jack if you are reading this I am still waiting for your proof that walmart’s error was intentional. If you don’t respond within 16.89 minutes, the toaster will turn into a waffle iron.
Hey Nightwing,
Any chance of posting that letter? Jack’s writing is always pretty funny, most of the time not logical, but funny
If you haven’t yet, check the new article about the short update. That’s the one.
Andrew
To: Blogomania dudes:
Get this through your heads and stick it directly up URANUS (you know the planet near Saturn). Rich Gorman is INNOCENT; over 3 years in prison yet he is innocent, my wife and I have driven over 75,000 miles to make sure his daughter Alexis knows him, loves him and bonds with him. It has been a 100% success. Rich and Alexis (age 3) lead the world in “ring-around-the -rosey”. (wow – what dangerous man !! ) Matt Smith (the prosecutor) is the MIKE NIFONG of Florida. CONFIRMED !!! I have ALL the proof, so do not even think about arguing with me. It will emerge soon enough, now that the FEDS are involved. The Gambino Family AKA the Florida Board of Governors, wrote the STUPIDEST SELF INDICTING letter of ALL TIME; The A holes wrote a letter on July 29 that states (paraphrase) that they are 100 % in support of prosecutorial misconduct. by Matt Smith! and they do not care that SMITH cheated and sent an innocent person to prison ( AAGGH – the benefits of a Florida education !! and these are the smart guys – holy crap !! ) I have the Letter — do NOT argue with me!! Jack has the letter – do not argue with Jack. !!The entire corrupt tone and statements in the letter of July 29th, are a self inflicted nuclear bomb against the GANG of 52. AGAIN — Do NOT argue with me, I have the letter – you don’t ! TOO bad for the idiots on the SCt– they missed the significance — they let it ride BECAUSE THE SC DOES NOT CONTROL THE GANG OF 52 ON THE BOG, but just the opposite. Peggy the token is soon to be history. ( F you in advance).
I never heard of Jack Thompson until about 90 days ago. I found his story on the Internet, and on “mindless blogs like this”. FACT ( repeat FACT) – The July 29 “GORMAN Letter ” from the GANG of 52 is outrageous, stupid, and constitutes Obstruction of Justice ! FACT do not waste time with your typical BS. Jack T’s concerns about abuse of power by the Fla BAR, and lack of due process are 100% CONFIRMED !! AND TODAY — SOME BIG BIG GUYS BLINKED !! I, BIG “G” AKA Danger DAD, have finally got to the HIGHEST of the HIGHEST in this ordeal concerning my innocent son !! They could no longer stand my SQUEEZING their GONADS !! (and maybe their careers)
They BLINKED TODAY !!!!!!!! THEY communicated that they no longer want to “TANGO” with the BIG G. I have it ; you jerk offs do not ; do not ARGUE with me !! The BIG BOYS ( not the SC faggots) blinked and surrendered; not only is MATT SMITH ( you C sucker) guilty of gross prosecutorial misconduct, but he will be arrested shortly as a FELON, and an accomplice in the intentional TORTURE Of RICHARD GORMAN at LIBERTY CI. 5 years of prison and many large dicks are headed Matt Smiths way!
This ALL bodes well for Jack Thompson and his claims of abuse by the SC and the system over the years. Jack has a few hurdles left, but I will surely help him make the leap. He ain’t heavy, he’s my brother!! AS for any who DARE to oppose me — the BIG G — I will lay your souls to waste !! Its OVER — GIVE up your BS rhetoric!! The BIG BIG guys blinked today; they all want to be re-elected some day. And Matt Smith is going to hell and he ( a corrupt prosecutor) will need lots of vaseline. DON”T ever F$@% with my family.
LAW 19 of the 48 laws of power: Be careful whom you offend; there are certain persons who appear to be kindly sheep, but when you offend or attack his family, he will dedicate the rest of his life to bringing you to justice – whatever it takes. F YOU SMITH I WIN Big G !
No questions will be taken or answered – Kindly respond that “you are NOT worthy to BLOG with ME” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Incoherent troll is incoherent. Who was that directed to? Me? Us? GP? The bar?
Dan,
Do NOT be a wise ass !! Too bad you are having trouble keeping up. Was it the Florida education that so handi-capped you in life ?? OK – I will be nice and cut you some slack, becasue I do NOT recognize your name from the other blog (( JAA – it must stand for Junior astronauts assoc. — because many of the comments derive from people that seem to be high; you know -like up in the air). Here is the real short form, with “paraphrased” comments about letters and quotes. In other words, I am NOT providing you a 3 page ” stupidest letter of all time” from the BOG – the Gang of 52 that rule the Florida Bar and also rule the Fla. Supreme Court. That is the rule. Jack and I both possess THE 7/29 letter– from now on just call it ” The stupid BOG letter to Mr. G.”
You know Jack Thompsons history of advocacy against violence and pornography. He kicked some Fla. Bar ASS in the 1990’s — so they set out for retaliation; they set out to destroy him, based solely on his advocacy, his success, and the fact that the Fla. BAR is the only such BAR in USA to be sanctioned for their attacks on JT. So , like good dedicated public servants, these A holes “RENEWED THE WAR” against JT in recent years, and decided that they should lie, cheat, steal, cover up, …. whatever it takes to defeat JT. Jack has consistently (and correctly alleged) that the Fla Bar and the BOG Gang of 52, was NOT following their OWN DEFINED BAR rules in “attacking him”; he was not being granted proper due process, the Fla Bar (aka Gambino crime family) was doing a “win at all costs” attack on JT. ( I hope I am going slow enough …. you know …. given the Florida educatioin and all being a disadvantage). THESE ARE FACTS ….. JT COULD BE MORE ELOQUENT THAN ME, BUT I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE !! So where does Big Gorman and son Rich Gorman fit in ?? We never heard of or talked to JT until 90 days ago. Had NO IDEA of his experience ( illegal nightmare) with the Fla. BAR.
IN June 2003, Rich Gorman jr.fsu STUDENT, was ARRESTED, with NO probable cause by the Tallahassee PIG DEPT (TPIGD). The “supposed crime” sexual battery on a twit age 19 = an alleged 5 to 10 second date rape, with no consent. It was all lies and is now known to be ALL lies, The Tally PIGS arrested him at his house THE NEXT DAY based SOLELY on a pack of lies written on a police report by said twit. The TWIT, after Rich nicely drove her back to campus desperately wanted the attention of MIKE; MIKE was a friend that said TWIT provided booty calls for several times. Mike had ignored the TWIT ALL NIGHT ) it was now 3 AM ) Said TWIT, drinking while on Lexapro during the night (away from Rich – they were at a club) WANTED TO GET LAID BY MIKE, WHO KEPT IGNORING HER. SO, AT 3 AM AT THE FSU CAMPUS, twit PHONES MIKE AND ANNOUNCES ” I HAVE JUST BEEN RAPED !! – COME HELP ME !! twit never calls the police, never hits the Emergency “punch lights “that are all over the FSU Campus , TWIT never calls her roommate. TWIT never calls 911 (Because it was ALL Bullshit, just to finally get MIKE to respond) Mike arrives in the field, just as TWIT grabs her vaginal area, falls over in the fetal position, and cries save me save me. OH yea over 8 years in DRAMA school !Mike – NOT TWIT calls an FSU cop; TWIT looks panicky and says at least 5 times — NO NO I do not need a cop, I just want to go to YOUR room (Mikes) and take a shower. She persistently says NO COPS, but MIKE INSISTS on a rape report and the police (TWIT never wanted this outcome). SUDDENLY, TWIT IS SURROUNDED BY 4 COPS, 2 VICTIM ADVOCATES ) Oh sister, sister you must report this rape; be strong sister — he will do it to somebody else) Unfortuneately – you can’t possibly make this BS up!! SOOO, surrounded by all these foks , and hero MIKE saying you MUST report the rape, TWIT is STUCK – SOOO TWIT starts talking, and making it ALL up as she goes along. AGAIN – by trial @2, the ENTIRE POLICE report is admitted to be FALSE (but that is no problem in Tally land – girls are NOT prosecuted!!) The prosecution of Rich Gorman goes on (and the Matt Smith cheating )A sample of the lies (ALL later admitted to as lies by TWIT during deposition and 2 trials). Police report lies — he forced me into his car ( BRRNT – 2 other girls offered TWIT a ride home; Twit insisted on voluntary going with Rich); we got to his apartment, and he “DRAGGED ME OUT OF THE CAR” ; ” HE “DRAGGED ME UP THE STAIRS” ; HE FORCED ME INTO THE DOORWAY APT. “HE VICIOUSLY THREW ME ONTO HIS BED ” ” HE IMMEDIATELY JUMPED ON ME … AND INSERTED IT. “THE ENTIRE TIME, I WAS SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS STOP STOP STOP” “AFTER 5 TO 10 SECONDS, I FINALLY LET OUT A BURST (SCREAM) THAT I KNOW HE COULD HEAR … AND HE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, AND ASKED ME “WHAT IS WRONG ?? ALL 100% lies and TWIT admits such OVER time; but the prosecution goes on !! The girl TWIT had ZERO marks on her body – ZERO !!; her Vag. kit showed very mild redness ( she had been “grind ” dancing at the club for hours dirty dancing was the term) She was rated fully alet x3 at the hospital and was “happy” (because Mike was there and she knew she GOT him, and stillhad achance to get laid this night, just as soon as this PESKY hospital rape stuff was over.) I must stop here. Out of school, back in Orlando, etc Rich puts his life together waiting for this trial that never seems to get scheduled. Rich starts a great web based E commerce business, and makes tons of money. Prosecutor Matt SMITH states in Court at a March 2004 hearing Judge I don’t like him being free on bond
Dan, ( you will be sorry you asked !! ) here is the connection !!
Do NOT be a wise ass !! Too bad you are having trouble keeping up. Was it the Florida education that so handi-capped you in life ?? OK – I will be nice and cut you some slack, becasue I do NOT recognize your name from the other blog (( JAA – it must stand for Junior astronauts assoc. — because many of the comments derive from people that seem to be high; you know -like up in the air). Here is the real short form, with “paraphrased” comments about letters and quotes. In other words, I am NOT providing you a 3 page ” stupidest letter of all time” from the BOG – the Gang of 52 that rule the Florida Bar and also rule the Fla. Supreme Court. That is the rule. Jack and I both possess THE 7/29 letter– from now on just call it ” The stupid BOG letter to Mr. G.”
You know Jack Thompsons history of advocacy against violence and pornography. He kicked some Fla. Bar ASS in the 1990’s — so they set out for retaliation; they set out to destroy him, based solely on his advocacy, his success, and the fact that the Fla. BAR is the only such BAR in USA to be sanctioned for their attacks on JT. So , like good dedicated public servants, these A holes “RENEWED THE WAR” against JT in recent years, and decided that they should lie, cheat, steal, cover up, …. whatever it takes to defeat JT. Jack has consistently (and correctly alleged) that the Fla Bar and the BOG Gang of 52, was NOT following their OWN DEFINED BAR rules in “attacking him”; he was not being granted proper due process, the Fla Bar (aka Gambino crime family) was doing a “win at all costs” attack on JT. ( I hope I am going slow enough …. you know …. given the Florida educatioin and all being a disadvantage). THESE ARE FACTS ….. JT COULD BE MORE ELOQUENT THAN ME, BUT I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE !! So where does Big Gorman and son Rich Gorman fit in ?? We never heard of or talked to JT until 90 days ago. Had NO IDEA of his experience ( illegal nightmare) with the Fla. BAR.
IN June 2003, Rich Gorman jr.fsu STUDENT, was ARRESTED, with NO probable cause by the Tallahassee PIG DEPT (TPIGD). The “supposed crime” sexual battery on a twit age 19 = an alleged 5 to 10 second date rape, with no consent. It was all lies and is now known to be ALL lies, The Tally PIGS arrested him at his house THE NEXT DAY based SOLELY on a pack of lies written on a police report by said twit. The TWIT, after Rich nicely drove her back to campus desperately wanted the attention of MIKE; MIKE was a friend that said TWIT provided booty calls for several times. Mike had ignored the TWIT ALL NIGHT ) it was now 3 AM ) Said TWIT, drinking while on Lexapro during the night (away from Rich – they were at a club) WANTED TO GET LAID BY MIKE, WHO KEPT IGNORING HER. SO, AT 3 AM AT THE FSU CAMPUS, twit PHONES MIKE AND ANNOUNCES ” I HAVE JUST BEEN RAPED !! – COME HELP ME !! twit never calls the police, never hits the Emergency “punch lights “that are all over the FSU Campus , TWIT never calls her roommate. TWIT never calls 911 (Because it was ALL Bullshit, just to finally get MIKE to respond) Mike arrives in the field, just as TWIT grabs her vaginal area, falls over in the fetal position, and cries save me save me. OH yea over 8 years in DRAMA school !Mike – NOT TWIT calls an FSU cop; TWIT looks panicky and says at least 5 times — NO NO I do not need a cop, I just want to go to YOUR room (Mikes) and take a shower. She persistently says NO COPS, but MIKE INSISTS on a rape report and the police (TWIT never wanted this outcome). SUDDENLY, TWIT IS SURROUNDED BY 4 COPS, 2 VICTIM ADVOCATES ) Oh sister, sister you must report this rape; be strong sister — he will do it to somebody else) Unfortuneately – you can’t possibly make this BS up!! SOOO, surrounded by all these foks , and hero MIKE saying you MUST report the rape, TWIT is STUCK – SOOO TWIT starts talking, and making it ALL up as she goes along. AGAIN – by trial @2, the ENTIRE POLICE report is admitted to be FALSE (but that is no problem in Tally land – girls are NOT prosecuted!!) The prosecution of Rich Gorman goes on (and the Matt Smith cheating )A sample of the lies (ALL later admitted to as lies by TWIT during deposition and 2 trials). Police report lies — he forced me into his car ( BRRNT – 2 other girls offered TWIT a ride home; Twit insisted on voluntary going with Rich); we got to his apartment, and he “DRAGGED ME OUT OF THE CAR” ; ” HE “DRAGGED ME UP THE STAIRS” ; HE FORCED ME INTO THE DOORWAY APT. “HE VICIOUSLY THREW ME ONTO HIS BED ” ” HE IMMEDIATELY JUMPED ON ME … AND INSERTED IT. “THE ENTIRE TIME, I WAS SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS STOP STOP STOP” “AFTER 5 TO 10 SECONDS, I FINALLY LET OUT A BURST (SCREAM) THAT I KNOW HE COULD HEAR … AND HE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY, AND ASKED ME “WHAT IS WRONG ?? ALL 100% lies and TWIT admits such OVER time; but the prosecution goes on !! The girl TWIT had ZERO marks on her body – ZERO !!; her Vag. kit showed very mild redness ( she had been “grind ” dancing at the club for hours dirty dancing was the term) She was rated fully alet x3 at the hospital and was “happy” (because Mike was there and she knew she GOT him, and stillhad achance to get laid this night, just as soon as this PESKY hospital rape stuff was over.) I must stop here. Out of school, back in Orlando, etc Rich puts his life together waiting for this trial that never seems to get scheduled. Rich starts a great web based E commerce business, and makes tons of money. Prosecutor Matt SMITH states in Court at a March 2004 hearing Judge I don’t like him being free on bond — he is driving a HUMMER in Orlando and making lots of money ( no BS – he really said this; A hole)
Fast forward — Smith wanted to win at any cost; he lied cheated, hacked systems to place bad comments about the TWIT on Richs businesss PC’s, and then sent 25 armed FDLE NAZIs into his business in Orlando to arrest Rich (he had stated to Judge _ I do not like him running free, so SMITH set Rich up to try to have his bond revoked. The Judge saw thru Smiths BS and DENIED IT. Rich was set FREE again; so Smith the NAZI tried again. He actually CONJURED up a “rumor case” a sex assault RUMOR and had Rich arrested again in Dec 2004. BIG Problem !! the rumor event was from January 2003; SMITH lied to Judge Harley to gat an arrest warrant signed in Dec 2004 (this is 23 months – SMITH NEVER NEVER spoke to any supposed “Hearsay witnesses” when these 2 folks finally testified, their statements had been “manipulated by the Leon County Invest, Austin. He is a scum bag. The second case was a “myth” to pressure Rich; (Smith was losing case 1 BIG TIME) Rich had a LIV IN Girlfriend for 7 months, including January 2003. Smith prosecuted 2 cases with NO probable cause. Also, the Grievance Committee who looked at the Bar Complaint I wrote – with help from a BAR COMPLAINT expert, while they DID nail Smith for major rule violations (5); they really ignored 33 other valid violations; 5 of which Smith ADMITTED GUILT in his written answers !!! The whole system is rigged, It was a major miracle that my lawyer and I got a PROBABLE CAUSE finding against SMITH on April 23rd vote; that is a FiRST in ten years. then, we had to FORCE the “automatic lettter report that should have followed !! I got the Letter on May 21st that Proves MATT SMITH is a LYING CHeating, win at all costs prosecutor and HE should be disbarred, THIS is worse than MIKE NIFONG by 100x. To date , trials appelate lawyers, bar complaint, expenses I hav forked out $750K fo CRIMES that NEVER EVER happened; Smith slickly cheated at the trial 2, deceived us and the jury (that can happen when he whispers for 15 seconds) he jury tampered, violated a judges order, and defamed Rich – against the Judges order; my lawyers did not cheat — we did NOT state the TRUTH — TWIT is bi-polar, cocaine addict, sex addict, drama queen (roommates words) AND made an identical FALSE RAPE CLAIM in Virginia 2 years before. The Judge was a moron — turns out he had ALS disease at the trial, so his rulings were way wrong. Rich and his lawyers were barely able to defend himself, based on many faulty rulings – BUT we respected the court and did not cheat – we did not whisper “Hey – This TWIT is a F in HOE, drug addict and simply wanted to GET LAID by MIKE this particular night” It is all fact , but we could not put on that defense. The RAPE COACHES rule TALLY Land; the Judges are scared to death to penetrate a rape shield law. Welcome to America. THE STUPID LETTER – After months of detailed investigation bt GC 13 C; the silk suits, THE BOG gang of 52 write the famous 7/29 letter that essentially condones evil, cheating, prosecutorial misconduct by Matt SMITH. They ADMIT the findings are TRUE, and then say TOO Bad MR Gorman, we are yellling at SMITH really hard, but NO other action will be taken.This is the essence of the Letter that will destroy the Fla BAR as it exists today. AND AND (the JT connection) this is the letter that validates ALL the corruption that JT has been pointing out for months. The Gorman world and the JT workd kind of merged about 90 or 100 days ago == and it is the end of the Florida BAR; I had dinner with a ranking former member tonight and he agrees. I am hoping he will turn and testify against these bastards.
I told you EARLIER inanother section, TODAY some BIG BIG guys blinked. I got the message. IT IS OVER. OVER shortly for Gormans ;; Over in near future in favor of JT.
Law 19 baby Law 19 NEVER OFFEND the wrong person !!! Jack , Thanks for Brilliant lawyering; and I got your back !! When you and Richie are awarded 50 % of the State of Fla. in civil suits, do you think we should let these knuckleheads stay. Lets sleep on it !!
signed The BIG G F you Smith I win bring plenty of vaseline to prison. they do not like scumbag prosecutors there.
Dan,
In this JaaBlog article are a number of links to further information on Gorman’s son, including accusations of a fraudulent business run by Gorman, Jr, the convicted rapist.
It also includes a link to old comments made by someone claiming to be the jury foreperson in the case.
Some of it is a couple of years old.
Some of the arguments made in the JaaBlog have been centered on the fact that, while the prosecutor may or may not have committed unethical acts, Gorman was found guilty based on other facts of evidence.
If Gorman is released, it won’t be because he’s innocent, it will be because of a technicality.
You’ll also note in the JaaBlog that Gorman’s dad points out that he had had 14 lawyers prior to John Bruce, supposedly GOOD lawyers, and that none of them tried to play this tactic. It takes the likes of John Bruce to get his son out of jail.
You have plenty of resources to fall back on in regards to John Bruce, so no need to rehash the long history of his own dishonorable and unethical history.
Gorman’s dad, recently, mentions that the case will be going to SCOTUS, though how soon and in regards specifically to what isn’t clear. There is plenty of argument about the sexual registry law down in Florida as well as their questioning of the ethics of the Bar and the Bar Governors, but how bringing such cases to SCOTUS will free his son isn’t clear. Yet, bringing such cases would, once again, be an issue of technicality, not proving innocence.
A person with brick and mortar access to the courts might be able to obtain more documents, but I wouldn’t rely on their interpretation of the documents but rather want to see the documents themselves to let me make my own decisions regarding the facts. Very little in regards to the documents exist on the internet. Even the Florida Supreme Court doesn’t provide images of documents the way the Federal Courts do.
Andrew
Hey, Big G, calm down on the Shift-1’s there dude. You aren’t exactly coming across as, you know, rational or anything.
This movie quote best describes Big G’s latest comments:
“What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
Having said that, it takes 10 seconds or less to kill someone. Besides that, your son relied on those same ” ‘hearsay’ witnesses”. If he would have testified on his own behalf, then it would have been more likely that he would have been found not guilty. Especially in a “he said, she said” case like that.
Practice what the Metropolitian Moron of Miami preaches but never does: Grow up and get a life.
Interesting; I went to FSU during that time your allegedly saintly Mr. Gorman went there. I didn’t hear a damn thing about this incident. Perhaps that’s cause it was cut and dry?
Also, blaming the TPD for being overzealous about rape enforcement is laughable. If anything, TPD ignores rapes.
And let’s not get into the major hole in your store that those blue emergency punch lights on campus link to FSU PD, not TPD, which does not have primary jurisdiction over campus.
Hey Dan , Flipside, and other dickheads:
You are all pathetic 1) you spend $750 K for made up allegations and see how it feels; but it is NOT the money alone by FAR; This BS almost killed my wife , her mother; Alexis loves her DAD and Rich (even in prison) is a better father than most.His business, that is 100 % legitimate despite what C- Tony Pipitone says, fell into bankruptcy, etc the tsunami caused by Matt Smith and the TWIT..
Dan — you are a f in moron ; the major HOLE in my story being the color of the on campus emergenct lights; I don’t remember the exact color and OF course they belong to FSU cops, The point is knuclehead – the twit did NOT use them; she was 25 feet away from one. That is the stupidest comment I have ever heard in my 50 = years. Man are you stupid please sign off and go back to school you idiot !!
B-Dogg — you are a moron too – I think I took the time to make many perfectly clear points over events that happened over 4 years now. Rich DID testify the first trial; Now listen moron – pay attention — in trial number 2 1) Matt Smith had ILLEGALLY hung another CHARGE on HIM (that is what the Bar Grievance committee concluded also); GOT it Smith violated the law and Bar rules and conjured up a MYTH, and arrested Rich 23 MONTHS later, DIRECTLY after a hearing with Judge Bateman (the Judges FINAL statement it was near X mas was ” OK so it is agreed we are all going on vacation – DO I HAVE TO WRITE A MOTION FOR VACATIONS”? ) ALL LAWYERS RESPONDED nO YOUR HONOR. Matt SMith had already had the “falsified arrest report” signed by another judge (idiot Harley who turns out had ALS disease). Smith had pre-planned this AMBUSH, and lied to Judge Bateman and to my 2 attorneys about any pending issues” Smith is a liar, a cheat, a fraud !! and he will be disbarred.
B-Dogg just shut up about hearsay witnesses – you are clueless. These 2 people DID testify at trail 1 (no jury present) this was some girl MM, who Rich does not know and a faggot PIKE frat brother Dehler — who actually DID rape MM at age 16, and did “beat her” in high school — Her friends testified that Dehler was the problem. The Judge listened to MM and Dehler and NEITHER had anything valid to offer, to suggest Rich had any “event” with this MM girl. MM stated ” I do NOT remember ANYTHING (she was at a bar with 50 guys). That testimony to the Judge caused Matt Smith to formalize the Information against Rich – Hang it on him before the next trial. SO BASED ON A GIRL LOOKING THE JUDGE IN THE EYE AND STATING “I DO NOT REMEMBER ANYTHING” AND “I NEVER WANTED TO PRESS CHARGES AGAINST ANYONE” — THAT was good enough for Matt Smith to file a second charge against Rich !!!! Now if you morons can not follow that, then just go away.
Trial # 2 FACT – Smiths Boss Robin Lotane (who has been FIRED for misconduct last year); told my son at the Friggin trial ” if you keep staring at the jury, I will have you arrested on the Spot ” That, my friends, is witness tampering and intimidation. BUT – in NAZI land, Rich had been arrested 2 x with absolutely ZERO probable cause– NOW here comes a Division Chief (second in command to Fuhrer MEGGS) making a threat AT TRIAL ! With ALL this going on, with an illegal charge already hung on him just for the hell of it, with the twit girl telling over 30 amazing lies, you hope the jury gets it. ONE LIE of significance creates reasonable doubt; 30 lies — the moron / ALS Judge Harley should have dismissed the case from the bench OOOPPs – must ask permission of the local rape coaches. Harley had no guts. AND , at the time, NO one had a sense for Matt Smiths jury tampering and other cheating. This jury typifies the stupidity , in-breeding, and overall TED BUNDY SYNdrome that still permeates Tallahassee — right up to willie meggs.
And That my friends brings me to a final goodbye comment. Channel 6 Pipitone in Orlando ran a C- minus HIT piece on Rich and his web business 2 weeks before trial. Smith fed him the BS. There is a law suit waiting for Mr. T when the rest of this settles out.
Heres how to discredit a business or a person ( NOW Nightwing – this is purely an illustartion) so stay calm ILLUSTRATION to make a point about how easy people get discredited on the Internet :: Post on RIP OFF report.com that Nightwing sells dildo’s over the internet; he is really just gathering credit card info. to perform illegal purchases of other items like prescription drugs from Venezuela using customer Credit cards. he has a long history of shady activities and his mother was a prostitute, who perfected the Dildo’s design. EXAMPLE ONLY _ BUT THIS IS what some morons accept as fact and proof. VALLAH -post this on the Rip OFF report and it is FACT — Irrefuteable FACT; never to be questioned FACT; to be continually quoted year after year after year FACT. That is what else Matt Smith did to Rich and MORON Tony Pipitone was his stooge . Tony NEVER got over the fact that he is a nobody , and that Kathleen Parker (a rival in Orlando, except KP made it BIG TIME) scooped him by actually reading/researching depositions and trial transcripts, and interviewing the Gormans and some attorneys — and she did a very sound article on Rich in May 2006. AND EVEN then, this loser PIPITONE keeps coming out with the same worn out wrong unproven statements. He still recycles his garbage today when this case comes up. Because he is just that – a Garbage man !!
This case may very well destroy the Florida BAR, a criminal organization, and I am wasting NO MORE TIME with you MORONS who ask probing questions like -about the color of the lights on the FSU campus, and have no idea of the context and the fact that 2 hearsay witnesses DID testify and the Judge threw their ass out — no useful, truthful information came from them. AND here is a DINGER — after MR. Dehler provided no useful information to the Judge and admitted that HE Dehler , left this mystery girl MM by herself at some bar with 50 PIKES Dehler approaches me and Richie and Joey Guest (friend) and states ” I am sorry MR. Gorman ”’ Investigator Austin bullied me into certain things on a statement that were not true; sorry about that” Get ready PIKES – check your bank accounts; you will need mucho dinaro for the civil suit. This knucklehead PIKE has done you in. I think I might make that $4million new PIKE FRAT HOUSE mansion on OCALA street one of my winter homes!! Lookin forward to it!! Goodbye Knuckleheads – I speak the truth; I have felt the pain; I have the facts and I will have MY day in Court !! You all try to do some good for the world other than re-cycling rumors about people. You are all really pathetic souls.
Wow, do I feel silly for saying you didn’t sound very rational now, because, of course, only rational people spring off into rants where they feel the need to capitalise insults…
I forgot – MY Bad as the freaky teenagers say. 2 songs to leave you with
To the demise of the Florida (FLORIDUH) Bar and the GANG of 52 – The silk suit Board of Governors who think they can TRAMPLE over the US Constitution at will. Gotcha and Good bye. Those of you NOT reporting to prison, should update your resumes. Here is my tribute:
NA NA NAA NA– NA NA NAA NAA — HEY HEY HEY GOOODBYE !! (REPEAT REFRAIN ).
AND WE ARE WORKING ON A MODIFIED “WELCOME BACK kOTTER THEME SONG” TO welcome back Jack T. into the community of “ETHICAL lawyers” — gotta start the whole thing over, he may be the only one. FLORIDA LAWYERS ARE A disgraceful joke !!
In closing , I am not used to this blog stuff. Notice I am the ONLY one to ID myself.
If you want to stop hiding (where you feel so Cozy about your sniping) and come into the light – I will even meet and share “some” data so you can assess for yourself if you have been wrong about things, and perhaps even a pompous ass about things. It is an invitation. I live in Orlando. I fear nothing and I fear no one, because I possess facts to support the truth about GOOD and EVIL. Honesty is the best policy. Why even our do nothing teflon Governor, after I launched many missile facts way above his head — he got the message from America. Fix this mess, make it go away, make Gorman stop writing me — and setting me up with facts and truth (I can’t stand it ). I want this GONE before any election. NEVER forget LAW 19 !!! Goodbye Richard A. Gorman, retired executive, husband, father, and (best of ALL) POP !!
One problem with your planned suit: Jack Thompson’s disbarrment is legitimate and as such, he’ll have no license to practice law before Halloween.
The best part of your rambling, incoherent response is that you called Thompson(being a Florida lawyer for one more week) a disgraceful joke. At least we agree on one thing.
The facts and truth shows Thompson to be a liar and anything but ethical. Being associated with him might have actually hurt your case.
By the way, the girl was drunk at the time, so how is she expected to remember everything that happened? Everyone knows that alcohol blurs the decision making process. The fact that the girl was drunk means that she was unable to consent.
You never said that your son testified the first trial(which ended in a hung jury, correct?). So since he did, why didn’t he testify in the second trial, when it obviously helped him in the first trial?
Besides that, the D.A. telling Mr. Gorman to quit staring at the jury could mean, in his view, that Mr. Gorman was potentially trying to intimidate the jury. It’s not “witness tampering” or “intimidation” if he wasn’t testifying to begin with.
I’ve never even heard of Kathleen Parker, so some “big time” columnist, then. And journalists are supposed to be taught to cover both sides without bias, so I guess she must come from the same school of yellow journalism that begat New York Post sportswriter Phil Mushnick.
Whatever. Jog on.
Note to BLOG GOD: I just spent 45 minutes on B-Dogg idiocy. I am being censored, because B _DOGG walked right into 2 adnmissions 1) No one ever mentioned a girl was Drunk; B- Dogg is NOW a rape suspect against that mystery girl MM. He knew and stated a detail that was never ever mentioned. I will contact the SAO on MONday. You stepped in it B _dogg you asshole. You were there if you state she was drunk !!
2) The trends, indicators and red flags of pedophilia are ALL throughout his comments. I will report him as a pedophile suspect also on Monday.
This is 25% of what I explained before the BLOG GOD censored me. Expect VISITORS in the next 3 weeks B _DOGG you big MOUTH ass hole.
Note to BLOG GOD: I just spent 45 minutes on B-Dogg idiocy. I am being censored, because B _DOGG walked right into 2 adnmissions 1) No one ever mentioned a girl was Drunk; B- Dogg is NOW a rape suspect against that mystery girl MM. He knew and stated a detail that was never ever mentioned. I will contact the SAO on MONday. You stepped in it B _dogg you asshole. You were there if you state she was drunk !!
2) The trends, indicators and red flags of pedophilia are ALL throughout his comments. I will report him as a pedophile suspect also on Monday.
This is 25% of what I explained before the BLOG GOD censored me. Expect VISITORS in the next 3 weeks B _DOGG you big MOUTH ass hole.
Fine, I withdraw my comment about you not being rational.
I meant, of course, to say that you totally and irrevocably unhinged.
From your first post:
‘“you are NOT worthy to BLOG with ME” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’
Seriously dude, I tell you that posting a comment that ends with over 40 exclamation marks isn’t the best way to get people’s to take you seriously, and this is your response to it?
Get some psychological help man, you really do need it.
Wow…props to anyone who can read and make sense of that incoherent mess of a story.
Big G — I’ve said this on JAABLOG and I’ll say it here:
1) If there truly was misconduct, you need to appeal the case to the next higher STATE COURT for a retrial. You’ll want to get a real lawyer for that. Since you’re currently with Thompson and had 12 other lawyers (if I understand this correctly), I’m guessing nobody will touch your son’s case because…YOU DON’T HAVE A CASE.
2) Having Thompson as a lawyer is not going to get you anywhere. He’s only using your son to help make his own case to save what little of a law practice he actually had (which these days seems to consist of disgruntled reprobates who’ve run afoul of the Florida Bar).
I’ll also keep pointing out that the prosecutor also had DNA evidence against your son, as well as the security camera footage outside his apartment. And your son ALSO changed his story once those little tidbits came to light. Funny how that works.
Let me put it this way Big G…
If you win, you win, great, you get the Justice you feel you deserve, and your Son does too.
If you lose, you lose, fine, the Justice system prevails, for better or worse.
I can’t make statements whether I believe you or not because I don’t have the whole story.
But where in the equation does hurling insults at people come in? What does it achieve? What difference does it make to the outcome of your own beliefs? All it does is annoy, distract and offend a whole bunch of people, regardless of what their position is on your situation, it gains you nothing, and loses you the respect of people who may have been more prepared to listen to a more reasonable statement of your problem.
Believe it or not, you can greatly reduce the possibility of gaining ‘friends’ in your troubles purely because they don’t want to be associated with someone who so vehemently attacks their enemies, they don’t want to catch the flak from that.
Nobody says the Justice system is perfect, far, far from it, however, you are hardly ‘rising above’ their weaknesses by appearing on a lawyers blog and typing barely coherent rants at all and sundry.
So that’s the thanks I get for explaining why your comments on Jaablog weren’t posted.
I’ve lived in Louisiana all soon to be 29 years of my life. The only time I’ve left Louisiana in the last 15 years was on Labor Day weekend this year when me and my family was escaping from Hurricane Gustav and ending up in Daphne, Alabama.
And that’s after delivering newspapers every day for the last 8 years without a single day off.
Nice try, I’m innocent.
In fact, I’ve never even heard of this case until you posted on Jaablog about Thompson helping you, so I don’t have and don’t know the whole story either. Excuse me for wanting to find out both sides of the story to draw my own conclusions.
Well, I’m out of this discussion then. Geaux Saints.
On the accusations made by Big G:
Drunk:
http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/09/25/so-long-jackie-boy.aspx?pg=4&view=linear#Comment
From Post 10/1/2008 1:25AM
“Channel 6 Tony Pipitone was duped by SMITH as the biggest stooge of all — suckered into doing a no facts segment on TV about Rich -JUST before trial. We will never know if that “c” minus reporter influenced the jury with his incorrect, asinine story. And lose the topic of “sex with some drunk girl”"
(Corrected a spelling in the quote for two reasons: misspelled (no big deal) and because it apparently is causing a curse word filter to block posting.)
Also, from this very thread, post #31:
“…Said TWIT, drinking while on Lexapro …”
And while gathering the above, I noticed the change in your own story about his live in girlfriend. We went over this a bit over at JaaB, but thought I’d bring it to the forefront:
http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/09/25/so-long-jackie-boy.aspx?pg=4&view=linear#Comment
From Post 10/1/2008 1:25AM
“Rich had a live in girlfriend during the time.Pretty sure she would have noticed some other person in bed!”
http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/09/25/so-long-jackie-boy.aspx?pg=5&view=linear#Comment
From post 10/2/2008 1:34AM
“A person can have a live-in girlfriend in JANUARY 2003 …”
“Then a person can have broken up with same girlfriend in April 2003, and gone out partying on June 20, 2003 with about 10 people. ”
BTW, the number of pages you claim to have keeps changing. At one point it’s 2,000 pages, another it’s 6,000 pages. That’s a pretty significant difference. Do you even have one page of “evidence” or is it really all just some work of fiction you and Parker made up?
In addition, the prattle about identity… After your openly terroristic threat against those who spoke against you on JaaB, and I’ve already quoted you on it and can do so again, protecting one’s own identity as well as protecting one’s own family against an individual who has previously made threats to do harm against others seems quite reasonable. That plus the fact that John Bruce, no doubt but no gaurantee, was the one who sent you to this site, knows full well some of the IDs used in multiple locations and, from one site or another, has reasonable access to identify specific individuals. This argument has been going on for several years.
To paraphrase: I’m ready for my lawsuit, Mr. Thompson.
What does this all come down to? In the short time you’ve been exposed to John Bruce, you’ve become seriously infected with “Thompsonitis”. That’s an inflammation of the irrational centers of the brain that lead one to believe that lying and deception are “moral” acts and that making wild and even inconsistant claims are rational acts. Many paranoid consipiracy theorists suffer from similar conditions. We can see the slow progression of the condition by examining your earliest posts at JaaB all the way to your most current ones and see the sad deterioration of the rational centers falling more and more to the irrational centers. After all, you, yourself, have claimed to be an executive, a retired executive anyway. Looking at the quality of your posts, I really have to wonder:
Was this the quality of your abilites as an executive or did it really begin this downward spiral after your exposure to John Bruce? Even accusing someone of criminal behavior with no clear evidence whatsoever, that’s another trait of John Bruce’s.
Andrew
Short answer: Your son should’ve kept his dick in his pants. Lots of people make mistakes. Unfortunately, mistakes typically won’t absolve you of criminal conduct. I don’t care how good of a dad Rich is. He screwed up. Welcome to Democracy.
Also, why the hell are you CAPsing words that don’t require emphasis? Can turrets get so bad that it actually effects your typing?
The Internet is FULL of crazies. I’m all for encouraging intelligent debate, but this is neither intelligent nor grounds for debate.
It’s also slightly off topic. I for one don’t give a damn about some stupid kid who probably got blasted and went too far with the wrong girl. Enough women are intimidated out of pressing charges against rapists that I applaud those who take it to the wall with date rape. Rape shield laws are a joke and most police departments at least partially blame the women anyway, which is exactly what you’re doing, you sick fuck. Take some goddamn accountability in raising a worthless rapist for a son.
But this isn’t about that. It’s about Jack Thompson getting disbarred. *cheer*
Unfortunately, Mona, John Bruce’s has taken advantage of the Gorman situation in an attempt to save his own butt.
John Bruce is attempting to claim the Florida Bar, along with the prosecutor in the case, are corrupt and that corruption led to, according to John Bruce and Gorman’s dad, an innocent man going to jail.
The thing is, there was sufficient evidence to find Baby G guilty. But, to push his own agenda, John Bruce would seek to free a guilty rapist on a technicality.
Daddy G feels that should the prosecutor and the Florida Bar be found guilty of corruption and unethical acts, that automatically makes his son innocent.
But, in truth, it just means his son, a man guilty of rape, will be freed on a technicality.
And with such a finding, John Bruce will claim it is evidence in the actions against him by the Florida Bar. Society be damned if a rapist goes free, so long as his, John Bruce’s, pathetic, dishonorable, unethical, career is saved.
Andrew
I’m not entirely familiar with this case, so excuse my ignorance– but how far has this gone up in the FL state courts? I mean… SCOTUS won’t hear this case unless all state avenues have been exhausted or there’s a demonstration of substantial prejudice– in which case a change of venue or removal to federal court should’ve been made in the first instance, as opposed to being raised after the fact. SCOTUS won’t be able to accept this matter.They can’t. They lack jurisdiction. Attorney licensure and misconduct are solely governed by state law and the state bar. It may be a due process issue, but it’s still governed by state law, and therefore the state’s due process clause will likely govern the matter.
Legally speaking (and I’m not entirely sure about the FL rule on this matter, Dan, so correct me if I’m wrong), even if a court will hear it it’s not like they’ll take it de novo. I’m pretty sure it’s usually an abuse of discretion standard of review or higher– and in this case, if the judge should’ve declared mistrial due to attorney misconduct, a higher court would likely only turn it over for new trial if there was an abuse of discretion AND if it can be shown on the evidence that the outcome of the case would be otherwise different. It doesn’t look like that’s the case here…
So… Why are we still talking about this?
This is where the Gorman case with John Bruce went in the FL Supreme Court:
http://jweb.flcourts.org/pls/docket/ds_docket?p_caseyear=2008&p_casenumber=1919&psCourt=FSC&psSearchType=
Basically, nowhere.
Anyhow, on to updates. I just emailed Dan a new Zip update with a Response by the Florida Bar regarding John Bruce’s Motion to disqualify the chosen Bar attornies.
And a Motion by John Bruce basically saying “Hurry the heck up!” Which actually reads decent in the beginning… then he kinda goes loopy. :/
Andrew
Actually, Jack, the oldest constitutions in the world are those of Athens and Sparta. There are probably others, but they haven’t been preserved.
Now to go beyond reading the first two comments.
Dear Moron: The last time I checked, Athens and Sparta are no longer city states. Massachusetts is still a Commonwealth. The point was about existing, functioning constitutions. Honestly, did you go to a civics class in high school, or are you just dumb?
What an amazing defence, still avoiding actually addressing any issues I notice….
@Flipside,
Are you suprised? He always claims to have evidence to support his views yet when called apon to show it, he shuts up. I’m still waiting for his “evidence” that the saint’s row 2 walmart error was intentional.
Dan, this is written 21Oct2008 at 12:48 midday.
Check your email, including junk mail as I couldn’t Zip up what I sent you from where I am and you should see it before tonight.
YOU’LL LAUGH (probably) YOUR ARSE OFF!
Andrew
Awesome! Jack finally replied to one of my posts.
Let’s hop in the way-back machine, shall we Jack, and see what you wrote:
“It is fascinating to me that this site’s owner claims to endorse the principles of the Massachusetts Constitution (drafted by John Adams, by the way, which makes it the oldest constitution in the world)…”
At what point do you state “existing, functioning constitutions”? Also, both cities still exist.
But I’ll let it slide. I know you’re having a hard time, so I understand that you need to lash out and insult those who are more intelligent and better educated than you. I hope it makes you feel better, if only for a few Planck seconds.
Some “Catch-up” responses: Sorry I was a bit incoherent there>. You see I did a page count on each and every deposition, motion hearing, Orders in Liminie ( Matt Smith EXCELS at ignoring these orders by the judge); trial transcripts from 2 five day trials (one hung jury, one mislead jury due to proven prosecutor misconduct – found by Grievance Committee 13 C (Matt Smiths BOSS was on the committee – she eliminated 33 valid violations / findings — but could NOT eliminate the “prosecuting a case with NO probable cause”) ; Lets see what else did I count; investigators reports; findings by approx 11 other attorneys I hired after Smith cheated to get a conviction (which of course the judge threw OUT — he demanded a “lesser” PLEA; he he knew something peculiar had happened at trial – NO ONE caught the SMITH 20 second JURY TAMPERING whisper, that violated the Judges Order in Liminie !! – they all just asked him to PLEASE SPEAK UP ! no one imagined he was THAT corrupt that he would tamper with a jury by whispering); and then there is the BAR Complaint – that in total consumes around 1300 pages ! Total Page count was 5,718 pages.
AND I did and (continue to do ) PLENTY with all this. The trial data was the basis for the BAR complaint — 34 VALID major offenses that (each one) could disbar Smith!! He ADMITTED GUILT in his own written answers to 5 items; the GC ignored them; he was not cited even for his admissions of wrong-doing!!
It is called a “snow job” !! 34 major violations identified by the Gormans and endorsed by the EXPERT attorney who was Previously in charge of “LAWYER regulation” my attorney –(THE EXPERT on this stuff in Fla.) Well the 13 C G. C. decided my attorney was wrong on 33 of 34 items ( Matt Smiths Boss on the GC– 13 C is in Mark Ober -land).But they could NOT wipe out the worst and most obvious violation. So the BOARD of Governors grabbed it (mid June 08) after 70 days and simply dismissed it – no reason given (EVEN THOUGH BAR RULES REQUIRE A REASON) !!! And on July 29 , the BOG wrote me a swell letter that is a 100% Endorsement of Prosecutorial Misconduct !! They do not DENY the SMITH violation ;they admit the GC was CORRECT !! But no consequences — and ” Go AWAY MR. G.”
OTHER lawyers that the Gormans tried to hire to go after the CRIMINALS on THE BOG — all were either NOT interested (in career suicide) OR a few received PHONE CALLS suggesting it would not be a good idea to get involved. (NO BLOODY HORSEHEADS IN THE BED as far as I know). So, I am teamed with the only lawyer in Fla. that I know who will take on the Gambino family aka -BAR Board of Governors. It is far from OVER;
What some “less informed ” people view as “The End of the End” is really just ” The End of the Beginning” !
My conversations with the US Supreme Court are private; same for US DOJ and the FBI (OHH MY Gosh – did I mention that I did work for these agencies before I retired?)
People – FYI The law in Fla. IS IMPLIED consent. Big G
To Dearest Mona: To quote the Old Dan Akroyd character on SNL -”you are a stupid ignorant slut” ! How dare you open your Big Mouth without one IOTA of fact. This post will be short (er) – because you just need to go back and read information provided by me; OHH based on the trial and the depositions etc. At a Minimum, Google “Sex Lies Prison by Kathleen Parker”. This journalist read tons of material and interviewed lawyers. Or you can pay $11,000 and get the trial transcripts from Tallahassee. This case is about one and only one thing …..an out of control State Attorney Office that lies , cheats and steals to win cases. Matt Smiths Boss in Tallahassee ( a female) was FIRED in early 2007 for prosecuting a murder case WITH NO PROBABLE CAUSE! That is two SCUMBAGs in the same SAO office; they get it from the LEADER!
I bet you are a fan of LIFETIME Movies– they were part of the Lying girls testimony. AFTER declining a ride home from 3 girls (her roommate, Kim, and Graz) all 3 stated that the twit insisted and volunteered to go with my son which is true …….. said TWIT testified ” I was not comfortable around him earlier in the night …….. as soon as I got in his car, I knew THEN that I was going to be RAPED ….. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS IN LIFETIME MOVIES !!”. aND 50 OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. Prosecutor Misconduct (including jury tampering) threw a blanket over the eyes of the jurors. The only question was “CONSENT” and Smith cheated here also. MONA – WHY do woman like you think that females can NEVER lie ???? NEVER!! Exhibit A — the Black stripper in the Duke case;
Exhibit B – (10 miles from my home in Orlando) – this pathetic Casey Anthony girl, who ( in all probability) was responsible for her 3 year old daughter (Caylee)’s death! Open your mind girl !! ALL — REMEMBER WHY this topic is pertinent, why this case is being discussed on a Gamers cite. The reason is That there is WRITTEN IRREFUTEABLE PROOF, as provided to me by the Florida BAR Board of Governors (July 29 letter) that proves that the BAR ABUSES its Discipline system to meet its OBJECTIVE. They did it (semi-covertly) to Jack Thompson; they did it OVERTLY 10 years ago to attorney Bill Corbin (disbarred him) for NO VALID reason — Bill defeated a PUNK in a trial; the PUNK said “I will have my friends at the Florida BAR GET YOU” —– Over several years, the Gangsters at the Bar did just that. They are Gangsters; They are criminals, they act like tyrants – and Thompson , Gorman , and Corbin are going to send them all to hell !! So take NO Solace in the recent disbarment of JT because it will soon be proven to be a criminal act. TRUE PATRIOTS MUST BE WILLING TO DEFEND THEIR COUNTRY AT ALL TIMES, ESPECIALLY AGAINST IT’S GOVERNMENT. Just wait and watch -You’all think you are so smart ( you are all sitting in the corner of the football field at the 10 yard line – limited view! — WE are in a SKYBOX surveying the entire Stadium!) you have not witnessed the “end of the end” — it is only the “end of the beginning” that you have seen ! Much More to follow. LAW 19 RG
Jack Thompson a “True Patriot”?
That’s the biggest load of crap and the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, considering that:
1) Thompson himself has worked to limit the First Amendment right of Freedom of Speech, whether it was working against African-American rap musicians such as Luther Campbell and 2 Live Crew to Ice-T to The Geto Boys, or working with legislators in various states to limit sales of “violent” video games to not just minors, but adults as well.
2) Thompson himself, in a 2006 letter he sent to Take-Two Interactive on the 5th Anniversary of 9/11:
Radical, fascist Islamists recruit to their cause partly with the cry that American pop culture is raw sewage flowing to the rest of the world from a corrupted West. Take-Two helps cut the legs off the rebuttal to that argument. That is precisely why your corporate legs must be cut off, and by God’s grace, it will happen and it is happening.
Not only did Jack Thompson, in his own words, endorse the very Islamofascist terrorists that our troops have been fighting for the last 7 years, he has admitted that his actions give aid and comfort to America’s enemies. That’s defined in the U.S. Constitution as “treason”.
Therefore, Thompson is the exact opposite of a “true patriot”.
For the last time, Thompson got disbarred for his lack of decorum and his lack of truth.
Oh, and interesting analogy. Too bad it’s more like you’re celebrating a 40 yard Field Goal with one second left and being down 56-0 and acting like you won the Super Bowl.
The Big G,
First off, no one will take any of your responses to them seriously if you call them an “a stupid ignorant slut”, in fact, it lends more support that the guilty verdict against your son as being a rapist more support.
Bill Corbin wasn’t disbarred “for NO VALID reason” as you say but he lied to court which does merit disbarrment, if you have evidence, let’s see it.
I am really begining to think that Big G isn’t real, but a made up personality Jack has invented to pass the time between want ads.
Oh and Jack, since I know you google yourself every day, has Patricia written the check to the Florida Bar yet?
“My conversations with the US Supreme Court are private” must not be going well or ol’Jacky boy and Big G would be gloating about it
To daddy of the rapist,
As I stated in regards to your lack of coherent written communication skills and your claim that you were a retired executive and how pathetic an executive you must have been because of the evident lack of writing skills, I extend such to your claim of having worked with the DOJ and any Federal authories or authorities of ANY kind. If you truly were with such organizations, then it is definitely evidence of a low quality of standards for such organizations to have such an individual working for them.
You still don’t get it regarding the attorney situation.
84,000+ attornies in Florida.
You had 14 over time.
The only way to get such a case to court was to hire -1-, John Bruce.
If 14 out of 15 people told you jumping out of a 40 story building would kill you, you’re implying you’d follow the suggestion of the lone person that is telling you that you could sue and have the law of gravity considered illegal because some things float while you can’t.
Get a reality check there bubba. Your son committed rape. No amount of technicality is going to wash that from history. If he walks out of jail because Smith told the jury “Find him guilty OR ELSE!”, that doesn’t remove the fact that your son committed rape. Just that Smith screwed up.
Andrew
Andrew: Under Florida law, “Find him guilty OR ELSE” may be considered improper argument and grounds for reversal, if it’s objected to at trial. I haven’t read the trial transcript, so I have no idea if defense counsel objected to the prosecutor’s alleged “whispering”. If he did, and if the case was appealed, there’s a good chance that the Court of Appeals would reverse. This is especially true if the prosecutor’s “whispering” included the improper introduction of evidence.
Big G: Where’s the Malicious prosecution/false arrest suit? Lack of probable cause is grounds for both causes of action under Florida law, and if there’s evidence to support lack of probable cause, you would have a much easier time pursuing that legal line than going after the State Bar. Prosecutors are given fairly broad discretion– under Florida law, “receipt of information from someone who it seemed reasonable to believe was telling the truth,” is sufficient grounds for probable cause. Legrand v. Dean, 564 So. 2d 510 (Fl. 1991). Considering the politically and emotionally charged nature of sex crimes, it’s understandable that the Bar and Courts would be disinclined to penalize the prosecutor for lack of probable cause when lack of probable cause wasn’t clear until long after the initial indictment.
Based on the time line you’ve presented, the “lack of probable cause” wasn’t evident in the first instance of prosecution– it wasn’t until later that the witness’s testimony became suspect, at which point the prosecutor may have determined that there was sufficient circumstantial or supporting evidence to continue with the prosecution.
Neither my opinion nor yours as to whether or not the girl was lying matters. The jury, for whatever reason, believed it, and convicted your son. Calling me a slut and accusing me of watching bad television doesn’t change that fact. If anything, the fact that the jury convicted in spite of the girl’s lack of credibility suggests that you are either egregiously biased or your son was even LESS credible. Conspiracy theories and public “whispering” during trial hardly screams “tampering” and interference with due process to me.
Andrew: forgive me, I misread your last post. :-p
Big G — I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: proving that somebody else overstepped their boundaries does not get your son, found guilty of rape, off the hook. He MIGHT get a new trial out of it, but it’s not the Get Out of Jail Free card you keep thinking it will be.
As others have suggested above, why didn’t YOUR attorney object and request a mistrial at the time of the malicious whispering?
What about the DNA evidence that was presented that your son had sexual contact with the victim? How about the video evidence and your continually ignoring the fact that your son ALSO changed his story about what happened that night? That might be why you’re having difficulty winning on appeal and have hitched your wagon to a charlatan in Jack Thompson. Seriously, I hope you haven’t paid him anything. And I’d be really suspicious if you wrote him a check for $43,000.
(Jack isn’t representing you any more. He’s disbarred. His chances of victory right now are zero point zero.)
Thompson apparently gave up.
Per nightwng2000 at GamePolitics, after Thompson accidentally voluntarily dismissed then reinstated his suit when he realized his error(he probably got so excited that Vanderbilt will be playing in a bowl game for the first time in about 25 years) last weekend, Thompson’s request for a stay of his disbarrment was denied, then Thompson voluntarily dismissed his case, which the judge accepted after issuing an Omnibus Order denying Thompson’s numerous motions.
Looks like it is the “end of the end”. The end of Thompson’s law career.
It’s morning in America again.
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